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West Alton Marina - Route 11? page 1

Steve
05-11-2004, 10:44 PM
Can anyone confirm where on Rt 11 West Alton Marina is? I have to pick up a boat there tomorrow afternoon, and can't find good directions. Everything I find mentions West Alton and Laconia. I assume Laconia is their mail PO box only.

Any special hints to get down there too? Is it hidden off the road? I know the area well. How far before Ames Farm is it if I'm going West of 11 from Alton Bay?

Thanks everyone...
DRH
05-11-2004, 11:24 PM
West Alton Marina is on Rt. 11 near the intersection of Rt. 11 and Rt. 11A (which goes up the mountain to the Gunstock Ski Resort). Coming from Alton Bay, it is roughly 7 miles from the bridge at the tip of the Bay. Driving toward Gilford from Alton Bay, Rt. 11 will increase from 30 MPH to 35 MPH, to 50 MPH and then to 55 MPH. You will drive past a "Scenic View" on the right side of Rt. 11 that looks out over the mouth of Alton Bay. Continue on Rt. 11 past the Mt. Major parking area on the left side of the road. Shortly thereafter you will see Rt. 11D meet Rt. 11 on your right, and the speed limit will reduce to 40 MPH. You will then go around some curves in the road, and just past the curves Rt. 11A will be on your left and West Alton Marina will be on your right. There's a sign at the entrance to West Alton Marina's driveway. Turn into the driveway and follow it back to the marina.
Steve
05-14-2004, 08:42 AM
Thanks Don. The server ended up shutting down before I could get your info, but I found it no problem. Their entrance was well marked. And once I saw it, I said "you moron!" because I've commented so many times that I wanted to drive down and check it out.

Thanks again...

Boat lift permit page 1

Tyler
05-11-2004, 08:23 PM
Last year there was some discussion regarding if a permit from the state was needed for a boat or PWC lift. Long story short it indeed was.

I have heard that this is no longer the case, something about just a notification? Can anyone help me with this. Thanks.
jimbob1603
05-14-2004, 02:39 PM
I'm in the middle of the process myself. :rolleye1:

Its the state that mandates all the requirements for any waterfront work.

A boatlift installation requires the Permit By Notification (PBN) application; provided the boatlift is:
1) Installed such that no additional boatslip is created by the lift
2) Is removed during the non-boating season
3) Located at least 20' from an abutting property line or the imaginary extension of the property line over the water
4) Installed in a manner which requires no impact that would necessitate further permit action

Visit their website: www.des.nh.gov/wetlands to obtain their booklet (in .pdf format) which explains the process. There are other applications which will work if the PBN process fails. The application fee is $100, plus whatever fees your town requires to process & forward the application; plus building permit fee.

Allow yourself several months for approval. The required paperwork can be intimidating; you may want to hire a consultant. Be patient, if it isn't approved by one type of application, try again with a different application. In an effort to protect the lakes, the DES will reject and/or deny any application for the slightest reason. Don't despair; you need to work with the system, not against it.

Or, if you get along with your neighbors, and are feeling confident; just install the damn thing. This is what many folks do, and it seems to work best.
shore things
05-14-2004, 03:26 PM
Your lift does need to be permitted. You can use a Permit by Notification Form, Minimum Impact Expedited or Standard Application Form. The state application fee is $100 dollars and by law the town may charge no more than $10 plus the cost of postage for handling the application. It should not take several months for you to get approval. Best way to save time, call (603)271-2147 and ask to speak with a member of the shoreline permitting staff, before filing.

New Condo^s Next To Naswa page 1

NANCY L.
05-11-2004, 03:19 PM
The new condo's that are next to the Naswa are higher than they were approved for. They were approved for 1 1/2 story (loft) but instead have a permanent staircase to a bedroom upstairs. It has blocked some of the neighbors views next door. I am sure once they are up nothing will be done by the City but can the condo owner's next door file for a reduced tax rate since their view is now partially gone? Why have a planning board if they don't enforce the rules? How did a third condo become waterfront when it wasn't before? Is it who you know in this City?
madrasahs
05-11-2004, 10:17 PM
When space gets to be a premium, condo problems like yours no longer become isolated.

A friend bought into a 20-unit condo, which had the minimum 20 mandatory parking spaces provided by the developer.

Unfortunately, each parking space was only four-feet wide! Just mayhem. Most condo problems are solved by selling out. Sad it has to be this way. You'd think New Hampshire would be different.
Scott
05-14-2004, 09:36 AM
I don't care for them. They look too tall/narrow and just out of whack on such a small piece of land. Had they gone for a regular loft they would have looked a lot nicer. On the bright side...it's an improvement over the dump that was there before.

I'm trying to bite my tongue on this though. They cut down all the trees that were blocking a spectacular view of the lake that I had longed for as long as I've been alive, so that was nice.

Anyways...they're built. It's too late to complain and change anything.
Old Chris Craft
05-14-2004, 11:48 AM
This is a good point. The zoning and planning process is painful but it would appear after that, you can build whatever you'd like even if it is not what you were approved for! Some friends live near the Broken Spoke Saloon and were shocked to see a second story going on the building during construction since it was only approved for one story. It seems to be no problem since they were allowed to open. Go figure.
madrasahs
05-16-2004, 08:48 AM
The new condo's that are next to the Naswa are higher than they were approved for...I am sure once they are up nothing will be done by the City but can the condo owner's next door file for a reduced tax rate since their view is now partially gone? Why have a planning board if they don't enforce the rules? How did a third condo become waterfront when it wasn't before? Is it who you know in this City?

You didn't mention that trees were cut down, as Scott has indicated.

If this is a waterfront condo, and it's been there awhile, they may have violated NH's "basal tree count" rule.

Properly documented, a case may be made to have the State exact a fine on them. (Or compensate you for failing to bring such a complaint to the State's attention).

I'd get an attorney -- many attornies will listen to your case for free (the first visit, anyway).

Sometimes all it takes is a letter from an attorney to the right party -- about $150.

(But sometimes it takes as long as "your savings holds out").
jrc
05-17-2004, 01:56 PM
The Comprehensive Shoreland Protection Act has a loophole:

Structures ... within the natural woodland buffer shall be afforded an opening for building construction that shall be excluded when computing the percentage limitations ...

So you can cut down all the trees where a building will go and immediately around the building site for construction access. This is not include in basal calculations. See section Section 483-B:9 for more info.

Free Fishing Day Is June 5! page 1

Rattlesnake Gal
05-11-2004, 03:06 PM
Free Fishing Day kicks off National Fishing and Boating Week (June 5 - 13, 2004) in New Hampshire.
NH Fish & Game (www.wildlife.state.nh.us/Fishing/fishing.htm)

Missing Basset Hound page 1

SuzFi
05-11-2004, 11:42 AM
70 lb. red and white neutered 6-year old male basset with a pink nose got out at 5 pm on the evening of May 7th. Greeley is a very friendly. I live on Pine River Pond - Lake Winnepauske - nearest town is Ossipee. This is about 2 hours north of Boston or about an hour north of Conway. On the east side of New Hampshire. $500.00 reward for Greeleys return or info leading to his return. Call 603 522-8472 Frank Covie or e-mail runway37prp@msn.com
Frdxplorer
05-11-2004, 08:10 PM
Best of luck on your friends return. Don't give up hope. We had the miraculous return of our black lab after nearly 3 weeks. Hope this turns out as well!!
madrasahs
05-11-2004, 09:44 PM
I assisted friends looking for a lost dog and put up posters 3 miles from his home.

:look: When he turned up two days later, he was less than ½ mile from home. Good luck, Frank -- I think I met Greeley once in your Subaru wagon?
Rattlesnake Gal
05-20-2004, 08:52 PM
Any luck finding Greeley? Please keep us posted. Been thinking about you and what you must be going through. Hopefully he is home safe and sound.
wolfegirl
05-21-2004, 09:02 AM
Basset hounds, with their incredible sense of smell -- maybe he got on the trail of a scent he wanted to follow. anyway, don't give up. keep calling/whistling, etc. so even if he can't see you / his house, etc., he will be able to hear you calling for him.

We have a cat that disappeared March 1 for 53 days, during which time there were snowstorms, rain, etc. He just re-appeared in the driveway one night. We had about given up hope for his return and there he was, like nothing had happened.

Good luck.
Cal
05-21-2004, 09:42 AM
My wifes boss belongs to a cat. He stops in every couple of weeks , friendly as can be , mooches a can of tuna , spends the night and disappears again.
She has spotted him in other parts of the neighborhood :laugh: :laugh:
Hope your dog wanders home soon :)
SuzFi
05-21-2004, 11:21 AM
No update on Greeley, unfortunately. We're still trying to find him. Will let you know any information as it comes in.

Basset hounds definitely follow their nose. Hopefully, someone has found him and will be helping to try and find his owner. Keep your eyes and ears open for him! Thank you!
Pepper
05-22-2004, 12:09 AM
I am so sad for you, and hoping that Greeley will find his way home soon! Keep us informed! Good luck to you.
Cal
05-22-2004, 12:47 PM
SuzFi,
Just wondering...did Greeley have a collar with a name tag and phone #?
My cats don't go out unless on a leash :laugh: but never are they with out their ID's. It makes locating the ;) owner so much easier. Keep the faith.
SuzFi
05-24-2004, 09:12 AM
Greeley's owner is Frank Covie, who can be reached at
603 522-8472
or
e-mail runway37prp@msn.com

I am a member of a basset hound rescue group that is trying to help the owner. Not sure if he had a collar on or not.

Thanks for your posts!
upthesaukee
05-26-2004, 09:53 PM
Did anyone call the Lakes Region Humane Society (569-3549)? Good luck with the search.
SuzFi
05-27-2004, 10:44 AM
I called to confirm whether or not the shelter had taken in any bassets. What was frightening is that the woman who answered the phone didn't know what a basset even looked like!! After repeating the information several times, she turned to ask a co-worker what kind of dog Greeley was - I told her that this was exactly the dog I was calling about. She said there were posters with pictures of him all over the place about him and that they were aware of Greeley being missing.
DJLLOYD
05-30-2004, 10:18 PM
As I'm sure all of us do, I love dogs (and all animals) very much! I hope that Frank and Greeley are reunited as quickly as possible! :)

With very best wishes to all concerned! Lloyd :)

Need Gardening Guidance Please page 1

Pepper
05-11-2004, 09:27 AM
Help! Just finished planting my first perennial gardens, and am looking for good advice on the type of mulch I should use to protect them. There are too many types, and I don't have enough experience to make the right choice, so I'm hoping there's some experienced gardeners out there who can point me in the right direction! Thanks!!!
Rattlesnake Gal
05-11-2004, 11:03 AM
It all depends on the look you are going for. Do you like red, dark brown or light brown? Does the smell of one bother you more than another? They all vary in price, but accomplish the same thing. Your initial four inch application should last for many years. Each year you add a sprinkle of new mulch on top to make it look nice. I happen to like hemlock. In the last couple years there has been a very dark, soil looking mulch that is very popular. Not sure of the cost. Again, it is all about what appeals to you. Good luck!
Good article on bark mulch (http://www.ces.ncsu.edu/martin/newsletters/newsarticles/twigs/barkmulch.html)

Another site with descriptions of different mulch (www.rexius.com/eugene/prod/mulch_ground.html)
Spider Girl
05-11-2004, 12:49 PM
Just as important (more) is what you're trying to accomplish with the mulch? Grass clippings (provided that they haven't been indundated with pesticides) about 4 inches thick are very effective at keeping weeds down, cheap, and compatible with all plantings. Salt marsh hay is good because it lets water through easily, but it can be hard to come by in some areas. Bark mulch is attractive, but costly (depending on the size of your garden) as well as acidic and tough for some of your more sensitive plants. A good way to get more out of bark mulch is to layer plain old newspaper underneath (it's very effective at keeping weeds down and disintegrates nicely).

Bottom line -- you need to understand the plants in your garden and what you are trying to accomplish with the mulch.
Rattlesnake Gal
05-11-2004, 03:00 PM
Spider Girl gives good advise, but rotting grass doesn't smell so nice. :eek:
Pepper
05-11-2004, 10:10 PM
Holy Smokes - so much to learn! Thanks girls, for your answers! Now I guess I better tell you what I've planted, so Spider Gal can advise me if any are sensitive. Also, I'm more concerned with keeping the soil moist with the mulch - don't require mulch to look fancy, just provide protection. Hopefully the flowers will be so beautiful that no one will see the mulch anyway! Here's what I've planted - mostly transplanted gifts from a friend:
Bee Balm, Bearded Iris, Primrose, Phlox and Daylily. Also planted some Gladiola bulbs (two kinds). Anything I need to be careful with? Also, with regard to the newspaper layer - should I shred it or just lay it out flat? Rattlesnake Gal, I'm gonna go check out the links you provided, and after that I may just end up with even more questions. I may be behind the eight-ball now, but I'm not giving up! ;)
Spider Girl
05-14-2004, 10:28 AM
The plants you've described are pretty hardy and not particularly sensitive. If you are just looking for mulch to keep the moisture in and the weeds down, I'd go with a combination of newspaper and grass clippings. Layer the newspaper (no need to shred it) as thick as you like, and then top it off with grass. This way you'll need less grass (and avoid some of the rotting smell which in my mind is fairly innocuous) to hide the newsprint. Just add to the top layer of grass intermittently over the summer, and you should be all set. As a "frugal" New Englander, that would be my approach.
RI Swamp Yankee
05-14-2004, 08:05 PM
Just to add my 3.5 cents to the good advice above, I hear you should stay clear of using those little white or colored stones as mulch. They looke nice (sometimes) but I have been told they trap the heat and can cook your plants. Remember a garden is never done, it just keeps changing it's stage of development over the years. ;)
Pepper
05-14-2004, 11:26 PM
I am so grateful for all the good advice everyone has offered here! I've decided to go with a good layer of newspaper, and then a layer of fine mulch, topped with a later of coarser mulch. After visiting the websites recommended by Island Girl, and really reading all the information, it appears that this will be my most effective combination, and will also offer some much needed nourishment to the soil in the gardens. The only reason I'm staying away from the grass clippings is the incredible volume of weeds in our grass - and the fear of dumping weed seeds in my newly weed-free gardens. Thanks again for all this wonderful help! You guys are great! :)
Pepper
05-19-2004, 09:30 AM
Well, I spent all day Monday following the advice of my fellow posters, and the job is now complete! The gardens look beautiful, with the donated perennials now beginning to fill out and shoot up. I'm eagerly awaiting the first sign of life from the many others I planted. I was very careful to place a mound over each one, and avoid covering the mounds while I mulched. I'm delighted to discover that last nights torrential rains did not dislodge any of the mulch - not even the top coat of nuggets. I am a happy gardener! I discovered I had extra time at the end of my mulching, and even began a compost heap - using the grass clippings, old leaves, some not-so-great soil I had removed from the gardens, and some left-over newspaper. I presently have it covered with plastic, with a very light coat of leftover shredded cypress mulch. My mother used to add all sorts of household waste to hers, and I'll be doing the same and hoping for the results that she once got - rich soil! If I recall correctly, she used to be particularly vigilant about adding eggshells, coffee grounds, vegetable peelings, potato skins, melon rinds and peanut shells. Anybody have any other hot tips for my new heap? Also, I have a bizarre question. I have a blue and gold macaw who creates her own variety of potential add-in and I need to know if it's safe for me to use! Her cage bottom is lined with crushed walnut shell - a product purchased at the pet store. I use a special scoop to remove debris from the bottom of the cage. Is it a good idea to start adding what I remove to the heap? It will contain her droppings of course, but also dropped feathers, and various foods she's dropped, including banana peels, nut shells, toast bits, various pieces of fruits, pasta, vegetables etc. Plus the remains of her bird-toys which are usually constructed of various types of ropes, woods, braided palm, paper, leather strips and sea coral. To my uneducated mind, these would all be good candidates for decomposition, but I could be way off, so I need some more expert advice. Any ideas? Thanks in advance! Hope you all have a wonderful day! :)
Rattlesnake Gal
05-19-2004, 09:55 AM
I was going to suggest a mulch pile, but didn't want to over whelm you. It is very rewarding to end up with beautiful, rich soil. I have done just a mound that would get shifted back and fourth as it gets mixed. Also bought a plastic bin type thing through the local garden club. Much preferred the old fashioned first way.
Read recently that coffee grounds are very acidic, which rhododendrons and evergreens like. Not sure if it is good to put in the pile for general use. Spider Girl might know the answers to your other items you asked about.
If you really want to get into the mulch thing, red worms are a great way to go. Very quick. Bought some of those, but ended up releasing them in the yard. (Too much going on for me at that time to worry about it.)
Congratulations on your new hobby! Sounds like you are on the right track. Just be careful that you don't bite off more than you can chew and get too much going on. Keep it fun, not dreaded work!
Good gardening web site (http://www.gardensalive.com/index.asp?bhcd2=1084974370)
Pepper
05-19-2004, 10:02 AM
RG - once again more good advice! I've put all three websites into my favorites, and I'm learning, learning, learning! :D I'm trying to keep it small, as you suggest, as I have so little time for this new hobby! :( Thats the reason I've started with perennials, so at least I've got a good base each year, without reinventing the wheel on an annual (no pun intended) basis. If I can figure out how to do it, I'll post some photos in the photopost section once the gardens start to show pretty stuff! In the meantime, I sent you an e-mail, keep your eyes open for it. Have a wonderful day!

Black Fly Report? page 1

Grant
05-11-2004, 09:10 AM
What's the current black fly situation around the Lake?

My brother and I are heading up this week for a few days of spring cleaning, raking, hauling, etc., and as I look at the calendar, I realize that we might be hitting peak black fly time.

Woo-hoo! :D
Pepper
05-11-2004, 09:15 AM
Spent half the day Sunday and all day Monday working in the yard, have polka-dots to prove it! :emb: Black flies everywhere, and boy are they hungry! Bring your favorite repellant!
Chris Exley
05-11-2004, 10:10 AM
We were up last week. After about 10 minutes outside, we realized we couldn't go anywhere with out the deep woods off (which worked for us).
Grant
05-11-2004, 10:30 AM
Nothing like them down here in greater PHL, huh? ;) Although we *are* supposed to see those 17-year cicadas any day now.

We'll be working up in the woods a lot Fri through Sun, so I'm planning on bringing the long sleeves, gloves, and the hat with the netting. My brother has never really experienced the joy of the NH State Bird.
tricia1218
05-11-2004, 10:49 AM
We were up the lake this past weekend opening up. I would recommend a hat, maybe gloves, oxygen tank, safety glasses, nose plugs and knee high boots! :D
Grant
05-11-2004, 11:56 AM
Okay then, looks like the complete SCUBA set-up will be brought along for the rare topside expedition.
fatlazyless
05-11-2004, 12:44 PM
The Black Flies are alive & well in the Buoy 3 area. Isn't this very early in the season for them to arrive. Like, I thought that starting in the end of April, we get the May Flies, which do not bite, and then the black flies start to roll in on June 1. But that's not the way it is happening this year.

How do you say; Where's the After Bite, a product made right here in NH?
SIKSUKR
05-11-2004, 01:17 PM
Hey FLL,I always thought they were one in the same.We always called them either black flies or may BUGS and thought they were always here for 2-3 weeks in May.Always seem to be battling them when I'm doing the spring clean-up(Cleaning flower beds and spreading mulch) in early May. SS
madrasahs
05-11-2004, 09:30 PM
FLL is back! Nice to see another Junior Member! (Ever get your engine sorted out?)

I don't know what I'm doing wrong. I've spent all week outdoors hauling, scraping and painting (weather permitting), and haven't seen any black flies. I always associated May with black fly "talk", though.

A friend stopped by and described them to me. I think I've seen two. Perhaps because my woods are left natural -- and I don't have flowerbeds, grass, or mulch?

The bats have been flying around for about a week. I thought May flies came out later -- like mid-June.
mcdude
05-14-2004, 11:27 AM
The general rule of thumb that I have always heard is that they are out from Mother's Day until Father's Day. Speaking of bugs.....check out this link and turn up the volume! click here to squish some black flies (http://www.mosquitoweb.nl/) use your mouse to control the swatter!
hazelnut
05-16-2004, 08:14 PM
To me it wasn't the Black Flies this weekend but the MOSQUITOES that were driving me NUTS! Especially today Sunday, after the rain subsided.
Merrymeeting
05-16-2004, 09:58 PM
Good News: The black flies seem to be done.

Bad News: Mosquitoes are as big as helicopters and there are LOTS of them!

I always heard that once you see mosquitoes, the black flies are done. Seems to be holding true this year. As mentioned earlier, they were really thick this weekend. Bring DEET!
Grant
05-17-2004, 09:19 PM
Good News: The black flies seem to be done.

Bad News: Mosquitoes are as big as helicopters and there are LOTS of them!

I always heard that once you see mosquitoes, the black flies are done. Seems to be holding true this year. As mentioned earlier, they were really thick this weekend. Bring DEET!

Done? DONE?!?! AIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!! No way. This morning, my brother and I were MAULED as we canoed from Melvin Village toward Specticle Island. It was the first time all we'd neglected to use any Jungle Juice, and we REGRETTED it. Granted, those flies out on the islands don't have as much human blood (or any other blood) to harvest, so they were MORE than a little hungry. But rest assured, the flies are alive and well as of Monday (at least on the eastern side of the Lake).

gfe
Grant
05-17-2004, 09:23 PM
Nice loon pic from this morning...

http://www.pbase.com/image/29092451
Lin
05-18-2004, 09:47 AM
Thanks for posting the loon photo. I hope to see more up there this year.
Rattlesnake Gal
05-18-2004, 11:04 AM
I thought May flies and black flies were one and the same. Turns out they're not. Mayflies (http://www.gardensafari.net/english/75java.htm?/english/locusts.htm)
http://www.gardensafari.net/pics/sprinkhanen/may_fly_t.jpg
Facts about Black Flies: Black flies (http://creatures.ifas.ufl.edu/livestock/bfly.htm)
Small humpbacked flies that develop in clear running water, unlike mosquitoes
The adults live for about 2-3 weeks
Females feed on blood, males on nectar
Black flies bite in the middle of the day and like dark colors
As the female bites, she injects saliva into the skin, which is highly irritating and leads to swelling and itching
Females deposit from 150 to 500 eggs in submerged vegetation. The eggs hatch in four to five days.

http://creatures.ifas.ufl.edu/livestock/adult_black_fly_thumb.jpg
Lin
05-18-2004, 01:30 PM
LOL, Rattlesnake Gal the black flies are the ones that bite us, the mayflies are the ones the fish bite. Thanks for that website on bugs though. Nice photos and info in it.
lakegirl
05-19-2004, 10:04 AM
Thanks for the info on flies rattlesnake gal....makes me not want to go outside!!! The ticks have been pretty bad this year too!!!! I'm pulling them off the dogs... and last week I pulled a few deer ticks off myself!!!! :eek: